Don't Fear What They Fear
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Don't Fear What They Fear
Matthew 22: Divine Wisdom vs. Human Hypocrisy
What happens when those who deny foundational beliefs try to trap the very source of wisdom? In our latest episode of "Don't Fear What They Fear," Joy and Robbie explore the intense encounter between Jesus and the skeptical Sadducees in Matthew 22. Join us as we unravel Jesus' brilliant response to their tricky question about the resurrection, revealing their hypocrisy and showcasing His profound wisdom. This episode offers valuable lessons for anyone facing insincere or challenging questions, highlighting the importance of discernment and an open heart towards God's teachings.
We'll also dive deep into the theological differences between the Sadducees and Pharisees, particularly their conflicting views on the resurrection, angels, and spirits. By dissecting Jesus' use of the Pentateuch to counter the Sadducees' limited scriptural acceptance, we underscore the significance of embracing the whole Bible—Old and New Testaments alike. This discussion not only illuminates the Sadducees' incomplete understanding but also emphasizes the Old Testament's critical role in revealing God's heart, human sinfulness, and our dire need for a Savior.
Lastly, we reflect on the value of seeking wisdom from biblically-centered mentors. Joy shares personal stories about the guidance received from Pastor Grant and other spiritually grounded figures, encouraging our listeners to turn to those well-versed in scripture when faced with personal challenges. As we wrap up, we'll remind you to stay hydrated and be mindful of the warm weather, wishing you all a fantastic week ahead. Don't miss out on this enriching journey through Matthew 22, setting the stage for more intriguing discussions on the great commandments next week!
Welcome back. Hey, welcome back. My name is Joy.
Speaker 2:I'm Robbie and this is.
Speaker 1:Don't Fear what they Fear, where we study the Word of God every week, and so we're glad that you're here. We're still in Matthew 22.
Speaker 2:Yep, we'll probably be here for a while.
Speaker 1:Almost there, you guys. Thank you for sticking up, sticking, sticking up.
Speaker 2:Stick them up Sticking with Sticking, sticking up.
Speaker 1:Stick them up Sticking with us, sticking with us, all right, so we are. Today, we're going to be talking about the Sadducees. Last week we were talking about the Pharisees asking Jesus a question.
Speaker 2:And the Herodians.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Herodians.
Speaker 2:Herodians.
Speaker 1:Herodians, herodians, yeah, herodians, not Herodias, because Herodias is the daughter Herod.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. Herod is the daughter Herodias. Herod is the title, yeah.
Speaker 1:Herodias was the daughter, and we're not talking about neither of them. We're talking about the people that was under them which they're called. The political party the political party, and so this week we're going to be talking about the Sadducees and hopefully if also the scribes if we get there, and I was expecting to be done with this part of the Bible yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, last podcast.
Speaker 1:So 22, starting 23, all the way to 33.
Speaker 2:Grab your.
Speaker 1:Bibles and have a good study with us.
Speaker 2:Wait, let's pray first.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Father, god, we thank you for the opportunity to read your word, lord, being able to open this book and talk about this. And you know, just learn about your son Jesus. Learn about salvation All that you've done, lord. Talk about this and, uh, you know, just learn. Learn about um your son jesus, learn about um salvation, um all that you've done, lord, how you want us to live our lives, father, we just uh pray that we take this um we, our hearts are moldable clay, lord, we don't want to be uh hardened like pharaoh.
Speaker 2:Father, we just thank you for um being able to speak this and openly speak this. Lord, we don't have, um you know, uh restrictions. We have uh freedom of speech in this country and being able to speak this and openly speak this, lord, we don't have restrictions. We have freedom of speech in this country and being able to talk about you, lord, and we'll just be able to share your word and hopefully, just share to people that don't know, and your seed be planted in their hearts, lord, and that they, too, become moldable clay and be fruitful for you. Father, we just pray this in Jesus' name, amen.
Speaker 1:Amen.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:So 23. The same day, the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him and asked him saying Teacher Moses said that if a man dies having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. Now there were with us seven brothers. The first died after he had married and, having no offspring, left his wife to his brother. Likewise, the second also, and the third even to the seventh. Last of all, the woman died also. Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife, or the seven, will she be? For they all had her.
Speaker 1:Jesus answered and said to them you are mistaken, not knowing the scriptures nor the power of God, For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven. But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God saying I am the God of Abraham and the God of the dead? Have you not read that? What was spoken to you by the by god saying I am the god of abraham and the god of isaac and the god of jacob? God is not god of the dead but of the living, and when the multitudes heard this, they were astonished at his teaching thank you, lord amen.
Speaker 2:This is actually um, there's a lot to unpack out of this one. Yes, um, there's a lot to unpack out of this one. Yes, there's a lot being said from both parties. And again we start with the Sadducees trying to get Jesus to condemn himself. They're not asking him a question based off of curiosity. They're not asking him a question based off of true learning. They're not trying to learn anything.
Speaker 1:Not trying to get wisdom, but really.
Speaker 2:They're trying to get Jesus to say something condem, condemning. They're trying to get him to trap himself in his words. Um, it says here in, in the very first sentence um, just the same day, the sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him and they asked him about the resurrection. That in and of itself is a hypocrisy, or what's the word? Counter, not counterproductive, but it's, I don't know whatever. Move on, they're saying the same. They're saying something that they don't even believe in, right? The Sadducees don't believe in the resurrection, but their question is about the resurrection. They are trying to make Jesus look bad and the idea of resurrection look bad, right? The Sadducees don't believe in the resurrection, but their question is about the resurrection. They are trying to make Jesus look bad and and the idea of resurrection look bad, right?
Speaker 1:And then like honestly, like reading this, and then they did that to Jesus. It gives me the peace. Peace when we get asked loaded, when we get asked loaded questions, because then you kind of understand that um realize who's asking the question and are they really sincere in asking you or are they just trying to test you or just trying to. They don't really care to learn about jesus, they just want you to get all twisted and that can be said for anything too, like not just, uh, biblical stuff.
Speaker 2:Like our children play game, play those games with us. Like they'll ask us a question of trying to implicate their sibling into something. But they, um, you know we've asked them to clean up the room, but but what? Did sister clean up her room today? I was like, are you really asking if your sister cleaned up her room today or are you just saying that so I can get to? You know, to get your sister in trouble or something? You know there's there's loaded questions throughout our whole day. I'm sure with jobs, yeah, your boss could ask you to do something, or you know, and then we could respond to a question.
Speaker 1:That's not all over. The place.
Speaker 2:So it's definitely the wisdom of jesus's answers in here.
Speaker 1:We should also use that just for our daily lives, yeah, of loaded questions and especially, for the most important part, is about because, for me, um, I was always, like used to be so nervous about people asking me about the bible, you know, because I don't want people to ask me, you know, I don't want them what if they're trying to like and I don't know the answer. But I noticed with myself that the more I spend time with him, the more I read the Word of God, the more confident I have of God giving me the wisdom and also discernment of when to answer people, or just stop and not answer them at all because it's not worth it yeah, I think that that's a key factor there too.
Speaker 2:This has been having the wisdom of knowing when it's a true question and really like yeah, let me, let me get into this with you. Or if this is like do you really, are you really asking that question or are you just trying to imply?
Speaker 1:something yeah right.
Speaker 2:I think that's a big key because, yeah, there's no point like, don't throw your pearls to swine. If somebody's not asking a sincere question, then they're just trying to get you to say something condemning.
Speaker 1:It's like a waste of energy.
Speaker 2:I want to say it's in Romans. It might not be Romans Paul's letter to one of the churches where he talks about women in ministry that is highly debatable. Talked about letter to one of the churches where he talks about women in ministry.
Speaker 2:that is a highly um debatable, but it's talked about majority of the time it's brought up, it's brought up not for sincere concern. It's brought up to try to point fallacy and, uh, misogynistic views. I'm like saying being able to say that the bible is bad, right there. No, no, people aren't bringing that up because they're let's talk about it.
Speaker 1:It's actually sincere. It's actually a question in my heart what?
Speaker 2:is it?
Speaker 1:You know it's people are so kind of like the Sadducees believing one way, and just that's a lot of social media too. You know they like to. What do they call them?
Speaker 2:Trolls, yeah, trolls. This is the original trolls.
Speaker 1:This is the original trolls.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so I wanted to go over. The Sadducees don't believe in the resurrection. It says it right there at the beginning, the very first sentence. But also there's backup to this Acts 23, verse 8. This is Paul. Paul is a Pharisee, he was a Pharisee and he's talking to a group of Sanhedrin. And Paul perceived this is verse 6, right here, I'm not going to paraphrase Paul perceived that one part were Sadducees and the other were Pharisees, verse 8,. For Sadducees say there is no resurrection and no angel or spirit, but the Pharisees Verse eight, for Sadducees say there is no resurrection and no angel or spirit, but the Pharisees confess both. So you know and it's mentioned a couple other places too, I believe but I think that's just very important to just really solidify the fact that they don't believe in resurrection nor angels. Right and there's. So that's, that's where they come from, that's what their core beliefs are.
Speaker 1:But they're bringing in a question about resurrection, yeah, and the thing is, though, the answer that Jesus won't matter to them in many ways, because they already believe that in resurrection. It's just like not the question.
Speaker 2:But I think another key takeaway here is that Jesus isn't just speaking to the Sadducees they're the ones that are bringing him questions right but there's a multitude of people around and as we get to the end here of this, that's what it says.
Speaker 1:And then what Jesus said that those who have ears let them hear.
Speaker 2:And also this like I said, there's a lot to unpack in here. There's some teaching that Jesus is about to drop that they've never heard before, and I think that's a key point to this whole conversation and which is why I think that Jesus is somewhat entertaining these questions. Yeah, Because there's people who are there's other people listening, so Jesus points out that they don't know the scriptures right Sadducees. Another thing with the Sadducees is that they only believed in the first five books of the Bible the Torah, the Pentateuch, Pentateuch.
Speaker 1:Another thing with the Sadducees is that they only believed in the first five books of the Bible the Torah, pentateuch, pentateuch.
Speaker 2:They only believed in the Pentateuch. Everything else was irrelevant to them. So when Jesus says that, that's the first thing he says. So he replied you are mistaken. Not knowing the scriptures nor the power of God, you are incomplete with your learning. Just reading the first five books, you're not reading the scriptures. There's more that you don't know and because of that, you're also missing the power of God, because they didn't have the complete knowledge of the scripture and the complete knowledge of God.
Speaker 2:We can't pick and choose God's word. We need to be able to read and study the whole word of God, and that's one of the scripture and the complete knowledge of God. We can't pick and choose God's word. We need to be able to read and study the whole word of God, and that's one of the things that he's saying here. You know, and us as Christians? We have the Old Testament, new Testament.
Speaker 2:When I was a baby Christian, I kind of thought, okay, well, I don't need to know the Old Testament. Everything kind of changed with God, with Jesus, and so it's just I'll know, I'll know the new Testament. Okay, well, now that we've read the old Testament twice, um, you know, we're almost done with it the second time. Uh, from the start to finish, there's it, all points to Jesus. That's all relevant information.
Speaker 2:One, you're getting the note of God's heart right, we know, we know, um, there's, and there's also there's a lot to unpack on the old Testament. Like, there's, like the violence, the um, the jewish um, at first it was the jews, the israel, versus everybody, like anybody that was in their way. Uh, they were, they would just kill, it would just, it was just would wipe out nations of people, um, and there was just so much back and forth over fighting over land, and then, at a certain point, israel itself divided in half. You had judah, um judea, and you had israel, and then they would fight against each other and pretty much wipe each other out, and then the whole tribe of Benjamin. There's a lot of history just in the Jewish people, and that all points to how corrupt humanity is and we need a father, how we need God and in order to have that relationship with God, and we as humans are not able to do Moses' law out perfectly and be clean enough to be with God.
Speaker 2:We need a savior, and so that's all very, very important, and if you don't read that as a Christian, then you're missing out on the scripture and we're going to be in the same position that the Sadducees are here.
Speaker 1:We're in complete knowledge of God's total plan for this world.
Speaker 2:And then, on top of that, turn that off, please, yeah, yeah, on top of that, what we're talking about with the Bible.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:As Christians, we can believe in the Old Testament and the New Testament, but if we're not reading the Bible, we're not knowing the scripture.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right. So that's. Another key takeaway here is even though we might believe in the whole Bible, we need to make sure we read. We have to be in the word. You can't just say I believe in this, Okay, well, what does it mean? What does?
Speaker 1:it say say I believe in this okay, well, what does it mean?
Speaker 2:what does it say? What is it saying? Well, I haven't read it yet. Well then, okay, it's kind of important, and then we can find that trap of thinking that we know, that we know who jesus and what he stands for yeah, um it's just a lot, a lot of unpack with that yeah I mean, I think, from start to finish.
Speaker 2:I read this once we're in the process of finishing, finishing the second time. I've read a lot of certain things over and over again, yeah, but I still. There's still a ton. I think for the rest of my life I can probably read this 20, 30 times and still you know, I still don't know a lot.
Speaker 2:So it's important, right. I think that's one of the things that Jesus says it right there. You are mistaken, not knowing the scriptures, so know the scriptures. It's important for us to know the scriptures, for in the resurrection I also want to backtrack a little bit the whole husband and wife thing, right, and the brothers and all that you got to think about at that time. It was. It's not the way we are today.
Speaker 2:Culture was completely different, right. You had um, the, the, the man, the patriarch of the family was um, the, the, the landowner, right, and then the woman would be the child bearer and we'd raise the children, okay so, and also the cultural um, uh, inheritance of property, and all that was also your. Your father, the, the patriarch of the family, the firstborn son would inherit all the stuff from, uh, and, and that would be the mother as well, not that it would be like a wife, but you would be that the son would take care of the mother right now, because the father died, became a widow, but she would be part of the family of the next patriarch, right, the son, the firstborn son, would then be the patriarch, right.
Speaker 2:And then that's how it would be. Well, if the first brother, the oldest brother, um, married and then had no, no firstborn son, and died, that mother would then be a widow that would be out on the street. So, in order for her to be taking, and also, most women weren't married twice, like they would be if they were married to that man and that man died and then, um, there was no brothers that would, that woman would just be on the street. So somebody like there's a good one, is the um, what's that book? Uh, ruth, is it the book of ruth?
Speaker 2:yeah, naomi and ruth yeah, so that kind of explains that process and how important it is that, that that they find a home, because these women would just go on the street and then they would probably not be taken care of. But but I mean, that's one of the problem with how corrupt human humans are even if not taking care of people that need to be taken care of.
Speaker 2:but god, so god's law of taking care of this was okay.
Speaker 2:Well then, the second brother, the second oldest, would then marry the woman and they would bring her into home and that would be.
Speaker 2:You know, it's not like a sexual grotesque thing, it was more of like to take care of the woman. And you know, it would be lawful that they would be married and then a child would be produced, and if it was a firstborn son, it wouldn't be that second husband's child, it would be married and then a child would be produced, and if it was a firstborn son, it wouldn't be that second husband's child, it would be the first husband's child, and that that firstborn son would take the inheritance of that first brother and then he would be the patriarch of that family, separate of that second son's family, right, but most likely that second brother would have more than one wife, but most likely that was how that that system was set up. Um, so when he would have another son, then he would have his own firstborn son and then it would be the patriarch of that family. But so that would go down the line that's, that's in the culture.
Speaker 2:That was the quote that was the jewish, that was moses law. That was.
Speaker 1:That was the law of moses oh, no like in a sense, yeah, it was, if, uh, and that makes it seem like the makes it seem like um, what I call that multiple wives is okay.
Speaker 2:I don't understand it was. It was, it was standard, it wasn't god's plan, but it was the law, it was the what was put in place? Um, I'll I'll have. I didn't look this up to find out where it is right now, but we can get back to it. But I'm pretty sure that that was um in like deuteronomy or or um somewhere around there. We'll have to look it up. But one side note we'll try to confirm that. Okay, um, anyway, that was what.
Speaker 2:So that's what you're talking about, right, that that culture. And then it would go down the, not the line. Nobody had kids, nobody had sons. So the, the inheritance line would go down to the end and then and then. So at the end of this they're saying that all the sons died, all the brothers died and the wife died. Who would she be married to in heaven? Right? Well, jesus is one. He's going to say well, in heaven, um, that's not going to matter. Marriage isn't going to be like it is here. There's no. Now I don't know if he's saying that there's no marriage at all. In resurrection. They will neither marry nor be given in marriage. So we know that it's not going to be like it is here.
Speaker 1:It's not going to be wife or husband, it's just all of this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we know it's different. We know it's just all of us. Yeah, um, so we know it's different. You know, we know it's not like it is here and when and um. But jesus goes on to say we are like the angels, that this is important too, that he's not saying we are, we will become angels, because angels and humans are separate, are completely different.
Speaker 2:Humans are made in the likeness of god yeah, it doesn't say that about angels, right, so we, we will be like angels, and the fact that we will have bodies that won't deteriorate. We won't need to reproduce.
Speaker 2:You know, there's those fleshly things aren't going to be a quality we're going to have in heaven. So we will be like the angels in a sense, but we are not becoming angels. I think that's an important thing here. Humans don't die and become angels. Angels I think that's an important thing here. Humans don't die and become angels, and I think that's really misinterpreted from this text. But we will be like angels. We will be eternal. Our bodies will not wear out. We are not angels. We are made in the image of god. We are the children of god. Right?
Speaker 1:that's different than yeah, because I think a lot of times I was growing up.
Speaker 1:You know, when um someone dies, they always, I'm always, I they, I was told, like they, they become an angel and they're watching our guardian angels and it took me a while to really accept that, um, that someone who have died is not my guardian angel, because being that is like making us equal to the angel, which is not true, because we are above angels as far as that, yeah, and that's said in the Bible too, that we are placed in the pedestal above the angels. And so it's just like the romanticizedized image of angels, which is true now. I mean, we can ask for god's angels to watch over us, but that doesn't mean that people died and become yeah become angels yeah, that's uh, michael the, uh, the angel, michael was never a human turned into an angel.
Speaker 2:My name michael he was always an angel actually that kind of makes up a good point. Side note um, we are humans placed on a pedestal above angels, and satan is a fallen angel. Could his hatred towards god be that he wasn't he's put placed below us and that's why he's mad at us and taking any anger out on us because we are in a position above him.
Speaker 1:That's something to think about yeah, I kind of forgot about it that way, yeah um, but yeah, so it's important.
Speaker 2:It's important to note the difference between humans, especially um dead people turning into angels is not, that's not. The resurrection is different. It's not that, um, and we got to make sure that that's something that we know. So, okay, now going back a little bit, the Sadducees only believe in the Pentateuch right. They don't believe in resurrection or angels, but Jesus is using an angel as an example here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But also he goes on to their level and he speaks, he says, but concerning the resurrection of the dead, now he's going back to the resurrection of the dead. Now he's going back to the resurrection of the dead, because he's. Originally he was. He addressed the marriage thing, right? Don't worry about that.
Speaker 1:There's no marriage, that marriage is not, don't worry about it. Yeah, everyone's taken care of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in heaven but then he goes back. But concerning the resurrection of the dead, because this is more of like right to the point of what they're talking about, yes, because they don't even believe in the resurrection.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, he's like.
Speaker 2:So. Now he's going on to like one to prove the resurrection, right? Uh. But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by god? And now he's referencing the pentateuch, right, this is uh, exodus, whatever? Uh. Now he's speaking of the exodus, right, the book of exodus. Um, I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, right? So he just directly quoted the Pentateuch saying I am the God of Abraham, god of Isaac and the God of Jacob.
Speaker 2:Jesus can't make punctual mistakes, right? He's a perfect being and he speaks with perfect intent. And god, this is god speaking in the exodus through moses. And god also can't make punctual mistakes, right? I am is present tense, I am the god of. So if abraham was dead and gone and didn't exist, so if abraham was dead and gone and didn't exist, you can't say I am, I was. I was the god of abraham, I was the god of isaac, I was the god of jacob. But he's not saying that. He's saying I am. I am is currently not in past tense, inferring that these men are still alive in the resurrection. God is not god of the dead is what j says. God is not the God of the dead, but of the living, and he therefore he's second, he's, he's addressing the fact that he specifically said I am the God of, and he's using the scriptures that the Sadducees know.
Speaker 1:Yes, right Praise, jesus Praise.
Speaker 2:God, but I alluded to the fact that, um, he's taught that jesus isn't talking to just the saturday series, talking to the multitudes, right?
Speaker 2:and I said that, um, that he's probably going to be speaking something that no one's ever heard of before this. What he just said, right, there is probably never been spoken before, it's probably never been been taught at this time, that abraham, isaac and jacob are alive, that the resurrection is real and that they are, they are, um, alive with god right now. That was probably never spoken, that was probably never taught in in uh, by the pharisees, by the sadducees, by the, obviously by the sadducees, um, by uh, the religious leaders, the priests. That was probably never, never taught and that's. And so when, when jesus says this stuff, the multitudes heard this, they were astonished, like this is probably a new revelation to them. Like, wait, they're not dead Like they've.
Speaker 2:You know well, we know that Elijah not Elijah, elijah was brought up, right, so he didn't die. And then, I think, moses was buried by God, his body was buried by God. So you know, there's a lot to it. These men died on earth, but they are brought up and they're resurrected with God in the kingdom of heaven 33.
Speaker 1:Also and I was thinking too that God is preparing the people for his resurrection. You know, when he says that he's, he's preparing their minds for his resurrection yeah because that's the real part.
Speaker 2:And yeah, I didn't associate that with us either, but that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he can't. He can't say that once he's already like dead, he's preparing the people like, hey, the resurrection, this is what happened, yeah well, I think that was kind of, you know, um, god works in his ways, right?
Speaker 2:so I'm sure that this was kind of influenced. This question was influenced, um, unbeknownst to the sadducees that, hey, this, this is a conversation that needs to happen and jesus is going to be able to address this. Um, their strategies are using it to their intentions, but obviously god is going to be able to address this. Um, their strategies are using it to their intentions, but obviously god's going to be able to make it into his will and, um, I think, I think that's part of, partially part, of the reason why this happened, right, yes, um, because, yeah, when he's addressing the resurrection of the dead, and it paved his way for his resurrection, and it's not the first time he's spoken of his own resurrection. That was previously talked about. So, yeah, I think that's all I got for this.
Speaker 2:We'll get to the next episode. We'll go into the great commandments. Jesus has asked one more question. The Pharisees come back. So the Pharisees asked a question, and then the Pharisees and Herodians asked a question, and then the Sad, the Pharisees asked a question and then they uh, pharisees and um, herodians asked a question, and then the Sadducees asked a question and then the Pharisees. I guess they come back for more yeah.
Speaker 1:They're like well well so uh let's battle him again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So these little word in mind games that they're playing play with Jesus. I wouldn't pick him as an opponent. No, alright, well, thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 1:Next week we're camping, so hopefully we're going to do an outdoor podcast. That's always my favorite. It's always nice to be doing podcasts.
Speaker 2:I like it too, because we don't have these bright lights facing us in the front.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't have fake light, we have the God's light.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we'll be missing our producer, the cat, the cat, she's hung out with us this whole time. Yeah, I know, I don't know if you guys can see her on the screen, actually I took a video of her, so I'm gonna post it there you go to see like how she's doing.
Speaker 1:She's always relaxing.
Speaker 2:Now I've already bothered me, but now it's cool um, before I forget, I'm gonna try to maybe maybe we'll do a little short about the Moses Law when it comes to marriage and inheritance, either to confirm that I correct or to correct myself, note here.
Speaker 1:What was that? I was like note here, Hold on.
Speaker 2:Okay, hi, this is Robbie, I'm back. I needed to clarify something. Um, we're talking about on the podcast about marriage and, um, the brothers and, uh, the moses law of the situation of the surviving brother, uh, so I get back into deuteronomy. Um, I got kind of the answer I was looking for and then to clarify what I was speaking about, with Joy, I called my Uncle Grant. You guys met him previously on one of the podcasts, so we had a dial, a pastor, and I called him up and asked him. We talked about it a little bit, but I want to start with the Deuteronomy.
Speaker 2:So this is where the Sadducees are bringing this information up from. This is Deuteronomy, chapter 25, verse 5. If brothers dwell together and one of them dies and has no son, the widow of the dead man shall not be married to a stranger outside the family. Her husband's brother shall go into her, take her as his wife and perform the duty of her husband's brother to her, and it shall be that the firstborn son which she bears will succeed to the name of the dead brother. That is the name. His name may not be blotted out of Israel. So that was done to keep the inheritance in that family right and to keep that family name going, and so that firstborn son would be the son of the dead brother and would take the inheritance of that dead brother, and then the next son born to that second brother would be his first born son, and so on.
Speaker 2:I think we brought up the fact of multiple wives in this instance. And what was Moses' law? So the clarification comes from. Moses never has a law about marrying a second wife and having to having multiple wives. God's intention wasn't to do that, but at this time it wasn't really spoken of, it wasn't really condemned to have multiple wives, but it wasn't God's, it wasn't Moses' law to marry more than one wife. Men at this time did have a lot of men, especially biblical king leaders and stuff like that. They had multiple wives and concubines. But this was before Jesus. When Jesus came, jesus denounced that and says that marriage is between one man and one woman and that was what was intended.
Speaker 2:And in this instance here what would have happened? My question was if the brother, the second brother, is already married, it's his obligation to then marry the wife of his dead brother. Grant was saying that at this time what would happen was that he would no longer be eligible, but then the next kinsman of marriage, the next kin, would be next in line. So if the younger brother was already married, he would not be eligible to marry the dead brother's wife, but the next person in line would then go.
Speaker 2:And a good example of this is Ruth. We spoke about this a little bit too In the book of Ruth. They went to the Kingsman Redeemer and so they would go to the next person and the next person, and in the book of Ruth the woman that needs to get married is brought to the man and he takes her to the king's redeemer and he passes her up so that now he is eligible to marry. But that was a process, that was biblical rule, biblical law. So I hope that clarifies it and if it doesn't, I would recommend recommend to read the book of ruth and understand a little bit of that. And then, um, I just want to clarify that it wasn't in moses's law to have multiple wives. I think that's what we came down to. Uh, so I wanted to clarify, and thank you just also to let them know.
Speaker 2:It's like if you have any other questions about the bible, it's good idea to seek wisdom from people who actually you know, and yeah, and this brings up a good example too, of um, if you, in your studies, you're trying to learn stuff, um, and you're you're having an issue with it, it's best to seek information and wisdom from people that um are heavily, heavily into the word and um that live a life biblically and understanding the bible uh, you know it's. We need to make sure that we seek wisdom where god's wisdom is, uh, it's flourished, right and uh, and I am blessed enough to have my uncle grant as a pastor, uh, and and many other men in my life that I could go to for this information. So seek it, seek the wisdom and make sure it's godly wisdom, biblical wisdom. Thank you All right, well, thanks for tuning in. We love you guys.
Speaker 1:And have a great week and stay hydrated. I don't know if it's still going to be hot.
Speaker 2:It's probably going to be warm, unless you're in a different part of the country or the world. But it's hot here. It's hot here. All right, love you guys, peace, cool.